Europe Trip 2010

Regarding London it is not that bad. I would not mind splitting up into 2 groups. It could be helpful if Brian was around to show the overlap the museums and other places and me following Joshua around the Royal Tour.

@Joshua: 5 cities seems abit too little. I generally recommend any city with a subway system, makes traveling way easier. It is kinda dull to spend more than 3 days in one city really excluding any trips to nearby cities/towns/attractions of course. Most of the wonders of the world in a city could be completed in one-two days.

Yeah, but I would prefer visiting Spain to Germany. Important thing to note is that not much time will be wasted and money will be saved by sleeping overnight on the train. Wei Sheng was suggesting we cut out Berlin lol.

Guess one of us has to miss out. Unless we actually go visit Liverpool and Manchester first, cos I don't mind not going around London (maybe a bit lol). Tricky for Paris, but it would be easier in a loop. Where would the 2 days actually be saved, other than the Paris-London train. Everything else should be minimised by travelling overnight.

Main thing is the railpass plus domestic airfare. Would want to make full use of a 15-day global eurail pass (which is where our two weeks will overlap), unless we take a eurail selectpass and book flights here and there.

3 nights Paris? Seems a lot by comparison to the other major cities. Longer days + most of Paris sights is better to look from outside. 2 may be a better estimate
Day 1, Major sights or Paris. Hope I can figure out the Metro. Chatelet is a pain to navigate.
Day 2, Louvre am if you guys do not mind staring at white sculpture and paintings. It is quite large but I think half a day is possible. And whatever is left.

Things to do:
Check train schedules. Plan will fall apart if there are no night train services.
Recheck intended destinations, is there enough to do in places like berne, marseille, milan?
Look up prices, start price estimates, esp for hostel/budget hotel.

Right now, there are about 24 nights

4 nights london
3 nights paris
1 night madrid (train from paris to madrid)
2 nights barcelona
1 night lyon (friend's place?)
1 night berne (train from lyon to milan?)
3 nights milan (day trip to venice or maybe other way round?)
4 nights rome (day trips to florence and pompeii)
2 nights munich (train from rome to munich, cousin's place?)
1 night berlin (train from munich to berlin)
2 nights amsterdam (train from berlin to amsterdam)

Far too crowded, not enough time to relax. Any place to cut?
Maybe go straight from barcelona to milan, cut out switzerland.
Or maybe spain and holland too ambitious?