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good sawdust on the floor atmosphere and AWESOME burgers. buyer beware, everyhting for the burgers is a la carte so to have a qulaity burger with fixings and fries you should be prepared to $hell it out. this is a place you can imagine 1970's era bar fights happening. the clientel is load, and the bartenders look ready to break up fights. it's a fun place to drink watered-down beer and watch football. Fells like a guy's bar. no clue why this place never tried to chase down the SUNYA crown accross the st., but the mature and blue collar crowd seems to be loyal to sutters.